I just bought this car because I understood that pulling a trailer with a 3500 lb GVWR would be a match for a vehicle rated to pull a 3500 lb trailer. We started camping in 1956 when our oldest was one year old. The car is rated to pull 3500 lbs. Initial estimate from the local Toyota dealer: at least $600 . We allowed 3 days from Houston to Atlanta over Christmas just so that we had a chance of setting up each day while it was still light out. As the others have suggested, you need to remove your bumper to install the cooler, but after that it is pretty simple and straight forward. This cooler was also one of our top choices for use in towing applications in our guide to transmission coolers for towing. Installing a transmission cooler is an extra precaution against overheating your transmission, and many people decide to use them in tow vehicles. Most folks would like to extend the life of their vehicle and many people consider an auxiliary automatic transmission cooler. We had 5 kids total and all but one of them still goes camping, all still in tents! 31s greatly increase the torque stresses on your drivetrain and 36s are even worse. How far we have all come since those days. of fuel just crossing part of Kansas. We upgraded to a pop-up in 1967. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, it's just one of the benefits of retirement. Yup, you need a transmission cooler. 8. So, did the units with a tow package have an auxiliary cooler, as well? Still have questions? Thanks again, John. Unless we properly install the cooler, it may do more harm than good. I share your feelings on the number of miles a day — as I had mentioned in my latest post, we try to maintain a 300 to 350 mile max a day but there again we are retired and have that kind of opportunity and luxury. I also have a trans temp gauge. They do not sell or recommend any particular type other than that one model. any ideas on what i should do would be great.. Do I need a transmission cooler for towing? Hi sandersmr,   I would imagine that most of us have experienced the ugly wind at one time or another. You enjoy your travels and be sure to "Keep The Shiney Side Up"! That being said, they feel that since I won't be trying to climb the Colorado Rockies and will be heading east and/or south most trips, most travel will be spent at lower altitudes which would mean more horsepower and flatter terrain. I have a 2009 Kia Sedona with a 6 cyl engine and  will be pulling  a Spree Escape E19SB. We use mostly state parks when we can. Money well spent in my opinion. You have a stock trans cooler built into your rad., but for towing, hard driving, racing, etc it's not enough to keep the trans cool enough. Tow-er: 2010 RAV4 3.5L 269 hp V6 with Tow Pkg ~ Tow-ee: 2011 Sportsmen Classic 14RB ~ Director: The wife. If there is a noticable diff. With its size and cooling capacity, there’s no question this can be an option for the best transmission cooler for drag racing. Post edited 4:27 am – February 18, 2011 by pfidahospud, Took the RAV to a local transmission shop and asked their opinion. Most vehicles with A/T have a cooler that is shared (but fluids are separated) with the engine radiator and *some will have an additional cooler that runs from the radiator (cooler) to the aux cooler, then back to the transmission. I have just purchased a 2007 E250 Super Duty Econoline van, do I need to purchase an extra Automatic transmission cooler if I am going to tow a U-Haul auto transport trailer (2000 lbs) on wich I will … read more Ken. Matter of fact, we have gone up the scale. They agreed with the x-mission shop and will be installing the cooler & gauge. Documented on Ford Forums. Pretty much what Silvertip said, but I think you are on (or over) the edge of your truck's towing ability even with a tranny cooler. We have had every type of RV except a Class A over the years. I really do think that with all the after market coolers that exist out there that there isn't one made that will fit other than a Toyota. On my camaro that I race, I run 2 extra trans coolers. SUBARU warranties do not apply to vehicle damage or malfunction caused by trailer towing.. Yes. It's very comforting to hear more positive input on the subject. I went to a really good 4 X 4 shop and talked with them about it too. I'm having on installed on my RAV4 today. I know they come as part of a trailer towing package on any factory vehicle. Who really needs a transmission oil cooler? any ideas on what i should do would be great.. for sure..yes ....heat is the biggest killer. Kit comes with everything to install cooler with. That will leave us about 900 lbs cargo, etc. I can vouch for the wind making for slower trips. That's a lot of miles in one day even  w/o a trailer. They are usually more secenic in our estimation. I can't get a good pic of the cooler installed…just looks like the grill of a car. They felt if I was faithful to those recommendations I should do OK.  Needless to say, I felt much better after that meeting. I'll keep a watch out for any additional info / comments you may have. We had an F-150 pulling a 23' Mallard TT at the time and went through $160. It just seems a shame when a person wants to do the right thing that there isn't one somewhere. Vincent DO WE REALLY NEED TRANSMISSION OIL COOLERS? It was very enlightening. An add on cooler kit is only $35-50. We would have stopped but we were trying to beat a late April snow storm. | This website is not affiliated with KZRV LP of Shipshewana, IN. That was bad news to hear they can't add a generic cooler to your Rav-4. WOW! As mentioned BA/BF Transmissions are prone to start making Milkshakes around the 170,000 mark. Again, thanks for sharing your travel experience. When driving uphill in hot weather, the How do we know if we need one on a vehicle that is not equiped with one and will be pulling a trailer. Thanks for the interest. It seems to be in question at this point. And last but not least, drive at reasonable speeds — like 55 to 60 mph. Krunk Man: 11-14-2010 12:42 PM: nope your fine. In response to your comment about travel habits, we are both retired and have the freedom of being able to drive fewer miles a day. Transmission coolers come in many different shapes and sizes, and there are a few things to consider when choosing one. Yes the #1 cause of auto trans failure is overheating. SportsmenClassicClub.com © 2021 | Content on SportsmenClassicClub.com is copyrighted and may not be reproduced without written permission. Anonymous. Could be a vehicle-specific requirement. If there is an opportunity to repair your equipment without resorting to towing, then it is better to do so. I know they come as part of a trailer towing package on any factory vehicle. Did you find out if those additions will affect your vehicle warranty? Post edited 3:03 am – January 14, 2012 by kayaknut, Thanks for sharing the details of your experience with your 14RB. Let us know how you make out if you want to try. Maybe that's why they choose Kansas to film The Wizard of Oz. I also called the local Toyota dealership and confirmed that no warranty is voided with an aftermarket transmission cooler. However at this point a have only had the TV for 2 months and am not in a situation to be able to trade for a different vehicle. A transmission cooler that is designed for being used in towing situations will help keep your transmission fluid cooler. Tommy Bayeast. That last day sounds like a killer for sure. At a minimum, an oil temp gauge is needed. Vendors, eager to make a sales, often overstate what a transmission coolers can do. I was looking on line and there seems to be no end to the various styles and sizes available. The transmission cooler goes on front of your radiator. Marilyn does drive on, occossion but not when it comes to driving with anything behind us. Still have questions? But just because you're doing a little towing doesn't necessarily mean you need a transmission cooler. Refer previous posts on "How to raise rear of Falcon". On the other hand, something small like your bass boat will pull along just fine without heating the system up any more than regular driving would. DO WE REALLY NEED TRANSMISSION OIL COOLERS? A transmission cooler is a component that you can add on to your transmission that, big shock here, cools your transmission. If either of us feel tired or just not up we can just stay where we are for an extra  day. It's just one more thing to think about. And our mileage definitely suffers when encountering a headwind. Ken, what does Kia Engineering recommend on use of oil cooler, since you will be maxing the weight rating most of the time? How do we know if we need one on a vehicle that is not equiped with one and will  be pulling a trailer. I certainly appreciate the posts I have received and look forward to any additional ones. I think a lot of people feel that pulling a 'little' trailer is not an issue, but you have to constantly be aware of it's presence behind. Ken. They don't list specific applications but I'll bet if you email or call them they will be able to help. Total cost: $165. We have places that we enjoy stopping along the way like the  Stratigic Air Command Museum in Ashland, NE among several others. Don't forget to "Keep The Shiny Side Up". I will continue to update this thread. I understand the suggestion to have a larger towing vehicle, but I'd rather have a little better gas mileage with a smaller (yet capable) vehicle the other nine months of the year. it's about $300 if I install both kits buy myself. The estimate from the Toyota dealer using their name-brand cooler was in excess of $600 – pretty steep! In such instances as described above, you should consider installing a transmission cooler. If the vehicle in question has a thermostat that opens at 195 degrees F, once warmed to operating temperature, the transmission cooler will have a tough time reducing the heat of the ATF below 195 degrees F. At the same time, if the transmission is overworked, it might raise the operating temperature of the ATF to 250 degrees F or more. Spree Escape E19SB – 2009 Kia Sedona 6 cyl. Should you tow a two wheel drive vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission with the driving wheels on the ground, catastrophic failure may occur. 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